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CARELSZEN, Mr. Joost

Male Abt 1630 - 1709  (~ 79 years)Deceased    Has no ancestors but 428 descendants in this family tree.


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  • Name CARELSZEN, Joost  
    Prefix Mr. 
    Relationshipwith Richard John GANOFSKY
    Born Abt 1630  Groningen, Holland (Middleburg) Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Died 1709  New Amsterdam, New York Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Age ~ 79 years 
    Person ID I5093  The Ancestors And Descendants Of The Falzini's And Their Collateral Familys
    Last Modified 6 Sep 2016 

    Family JANS, Ms. Styntje
              b. Abt 1641, Netherlands Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. Abt 1704, New York Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 63 years) 
    Married Abt 1657  New Amsterdam, New York Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     01. CARELSZEN, Ms. Marritie
              b. 14 Jul 1658, New Amsterdam, New York Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. Yes, date unknown  [Biological]
     02. CARELSZEN, Ms. Maria
              b. 15 Aug 1660, New Amsterdam, New York Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. Yes, date unknown  [Biological]
     03. CARELSZEN, Ms. Saertje
              b. 5 Jan 1662, New Amsterdam, New York Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. Yes, date unknown  [Biological]
     04. CARELSZEN, Ms. Jannetje
              b. Abt 1664, New Amsterdam, New York Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. Yes, date unknown  [Biological]
    +05. CARELSZEN, Mr. Cornelis
              b. 13 Sep 1666, New Amsterdam, New York Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 25 Oct 1733, New York Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 67 years)  [Biological]
     06. CARELSZEN, Ms. Catalyn
              b. Abt 1669, New Amsterdam, New York Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. Yes, date unknown  [Biological]
    +07. CARELSZEN, Mr. Joosten
              b. 2 Dec 1670, New Amsterdam, New York Find all individuals with events at this location
              d. 11 May 1726, New York Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 55 years)  [Birth]
    Last Modified 16 Apr 2012 
    Family ID F1651  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - Abt 1630 - Groningen, Holland (Middleburg) Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - Abt 1657 - New Amsterdam, New York Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 1709 - New Amsterdam, New York Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • According to Louis P. deBoer in his "Pre-American Notes on Old
      Netherland Families", this was origonally a Flemish family from the
      Province of Zeeland in the Netherlands.

      Protestent Flemish refugees had settled in large numbers in East Friesland, New Netherlands, and
      who from 1558 on had come there either by way of England or Rineland.
      (Ref. "The Genealogical Magazine of New Jersey" Vol. IV,p.57).


      "The combination of Joost and Carel in patronymical formation is very rare.
      It is therefore remarkable to find a certain Carel Joosten marry on
      Nov. 7, 1597, in the Dutch Reformed Church at Leyden, Michieltje
      Cornelis."

      It was common to see Flemish families in the late 16th
      century continually going back and forth between the Holland and the
      Zeeland cities, especially from Leyden, Holland and Middelburg,
      Zeeland. (Ref. Ibid, Vol X, p.321 and Baptisims, Vol D, fol.22).

      Joost Carelsen (Joost, the son of Carel) first appeared in the
      New Amsterdam court records on Dec. 22, 1653, and it is probable he
      came to New Netherland (New York) not long before.

      He was a ship builder, and his yard was at "Smith's Valley" on the west side of the
      present Pearl St. between Wall St. and Franklin Square, which had been
      bought before May 17, 1661.

      Joost became a member of the New York Dutch Church on May 28,
      1701, when he was recorded as being from Middleburg. He and his wife
      were still living in 1703, then over 60 years of age, according to the
      New York City census that year.

      All their children were baptised in the Dutch Reformed Church in New Amsterdam. They were known by their patronymic "Joosten", i.e. son or daughter of Joost, but when grown.

      and married, all bore the full family name of van Sysen.

      Origin of Immigrant: Middleburg, Zeeland, Netherlands
      Immigrant's Date & Place of Birth: 1630 Netherlands
      Immigrant's Date & Place of Death: aft 1703, New York City
      Immigrant's Spouse: Styntje Jans
      Source of Information: VanSice Family Genealogy, Published in New York, 19 59, by Wilson V. Ledley

      Immigrant's Children: Marritie VanSice, Birth ABT 14 Jul 1658
      Maria VanSice, Birth ABT 15 Aug 1660
      Jacobus Debebois Saertie VanSice, Birth ABT 5 Jan 1662/63
      Isaac DeMille, Birth 7 Dec 1659, Death 1712
      Jannetje VanSice, Birth ABT 16 Nov 1664 John Pell, Bplace London, England
      Cornelis VanSice, Birth ABT 13 Sep 1666, Death 25 Oct 1733 Catherine DeHae rt, Death 15 Apr 1742
      Catalyn VanSice, Birth ABT 10 Jan 1668/69
      Johanne Joosten VanSice, Birth ABT 2 Dec 1670, New Amsterdam, USA, Dea th 29 Nov 1757, New York Judith Verwey, Bplace Ft. Orange, Albany, NY, Dea th 1757

      Notes: Joost Carelszen Van Sysen it is estimated before 1650. He was a shi pbuilder. He was partners with Hendrick Lambertszen and thier yard w as at "Smith's Valley" on the west side of the present Pearl Street betwe en Wall St and Franklin Square in New York City's Manhattan.

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      Notes received during trip to Bradford County, Pennsylvania

      Hoost carelszen (van Sysen), the first American ancestor of the Van Sise f amily, was born in Middleburg, in the provice of Zeeland in the Netherland s, according to his statement upon joining the New York Dutch Church, prob ably about 1630. As he first appeared in the New Amsterdam court Recor ds on Dec. 22, 1653, and fairly feequently thereafter, it is probable th at he came to New Netherland not long before. Accoding to Mr. de Boor (o p. cit.) he was a ship builder in partnership with Hendrick Lambertezen Mo l, and their yard was at "Smith's Valley" on the west side of the prese nt Pearl street between Wall St. and Franklin Square (VNY73), which had be en bought before May 17, 1661 (RNA 2:7). Vanentine listed his proper ty in 1674 as of "4thclass" and estimated his wealth at $500 (ibid); in t he tax list of Mar 7, 1698 his property was valued at 10pounds (TNYHS 2:25 0). Joost became a member of the New York Duthch Church on May 28, 170 1, when he was recored as being from Middleburg (GBR25:259). He and h is wife were still living in 1703, then over sixty uears of age, accordi ng to the New York City census of that year. His wife, whom he probably m arried in Holland, was Styntje Jan of unknown paretage

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      Notes from Ancestry of Patricia and Sandra Brooks:

      According to Louis P. deBoer in his "Pre-American Notes on Old Netherla nd Families", this was origionally a Flemish family from the Province of Z eeland in the Netherlands. Protestent Flemish refugees had settled in lar ge numbers in East Friesland, New Netherlands, and who from 1558 on had co me there either by was of England or Rineland. [Ref. "The Genealogical M agazine of New Jersey" Vol. IV, p57.]

      "Ther combination of Joost and Carel in a patronymical formation is very r are. It is therefore remarkable to find a certain Carel Joosten mar ry on Nov. 7, 1597in the Dutch Reformed Church at Leyden, Michieltje Corne lis."

      It was common to see Flemish families in the late 16th century continual ly going back and forth between the Holland and the Zeeland cities, especi ally from Leyden, Holland, and Middelburg, Zeeland. [Ref. Ibid. Vol X p.3 21 and Baptisims, Vol D, fol.22]

      Hoost Carelsen (Joost, the son of Carel) first appeared in the New Amsterd am court records on Dec. 22, 653, and it is probable he came to New Nether land (New York) not long before. He was a shipbuilder, and his yard w as at "Smith's Valley" on the west side of the present Pearl Street betwe en Wall Street and Franklin Square, which had been bought before May 17, 1 661.

      Joost became a member of the New York Dutch Church on May 28, 1701, wh en he was recorded as being from Middleburg. He and his wife were stillli ving in 1703, then over 60 years of age, according to the New York City ce nsus that year. All their children were baptised in the Dutch Reformed Ch urch in New Amsterdam. They were known by their patronymic "Joosten", i. e. son or daughter of Joost, but when grown and married, all bore the fu ll family name of van Sysen.

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