Mr. Henry VAN SISE

John married Ms. Harriet SPICERMAN about 1858 in New York. Harriet was born about 1821 in New York; and died. [Group Sheet]

John married Ms. Bethena WHEATON about 1824. Bethena was born about 1798 in Ostego City, New York; died on 15 May 1886 in Delaware County, New York. [Group Sheet]

John married Ms. Deborah MURRAY on 16 Dec 1787 in Hellenberg, Schenectady County, New York. Deborah was born on 31 Aug 1766 in Hellenberg, Schenectady County, New York; died on 18 Apr 1833 in Masonville, Delaware County, New York. [Group Sheet]

Johannes married Ms. Margarita FORT on 11 Mar 1748 in Schenectady Reformed Church, Schenectady, New York. Margarita was born on 21 Jan 1728 in Albany, Albany City, New York; died about 1820. [Group Sheet]

Joost married Ms. Helena Magdalena VROOMAN about 1725. Helena was born on 10 Nov 1707 in Sheshequin, Bradford County, Pennsylvania; died on 6 Apr 1732 in Albany, Albany City, New York. [Group Sheet]

Joosten married Ms. Judith VERWEY on 27 Jul 1698 in Dutch Ref.Church, New York. Judith was born about 1680 in Holland; died on 28 Nov 1757 in New York. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

According to Louis P. deBoer in his "Pre-American Notes on Old
Netherland Families", this was origonally a Flemish family from the
Province of Zeeland in the Netherlands.

Protestent Flemish refugees had settled in large numbers in East Friesland, New Netherlands, and
who from 1558 on had come there either by way of England or Rineland.
(Ref. "The Genealogical Magazine of New Jersey" Vol. IV,p.57).


"The combination of Joost and Carel in patronymical formation is very rare.
It is therefore remarkable to find a certain Carel Joosten marry on
Nov. 7, 1597, in the Dutch Reformed Church at Leyden, Michieltje
Cornelis."

It was common to see Flemish families in the late 16th
century continually going back and forth between the Holland and the
Zeeland cities, especially from Leyden, Holland and Middelburg,
Zeeland. (Ref. Ibid, Vol X, p.321 and Baptisims, Vol D, fol.22).

Joost Carelsen (Joost, the son of Carel) first appeared in the
New Amsterdam court records on Dec. 22, 1653, and it is probable he
came to New Netherland (New York) not long before.

He was a ship builder, and his yard was at "Smith's Valley" on the west side of the
present Pearl St. between Wall St. and Franklin Square, which had been
bought before May 17, 1661.

Joost became a member of the New York Dutch Church on May 28,
1701, when he was recorded as being from Middleburg. He and his wife
were still living in 1703, then over 60 years of age, according to the
New York City census that year.

All their children were baptised in the Dutch Reformed Church in New Amsterdam. They were known by their patronymic "Joosten", i.e. son or daughter of Joost, but when grown.

and married, all bore the full family name of van Sysen.

Origin of Immigrant: Middleburg, Zeeland, Netherlands
Immigrant's Date & Place of Birth: 1630 Netherlands
Immigrant's Date & Place of Death: aft 1703, New York City
Immigrant's Spouse: Styntje Jans
Source of Information: VanSice Family Genealogy, Published in New York, 19 59, by Wilson V. Ledley

Immigrant's Children: Marritie VanSice, Birth ABT 14 Jul 1658
Maria VanSice, Birth ABT 15 Aug 1660
Jacobus Debebois Saertie VanSice, Birth ABT 5 Jan 1662/63
Isaac DeMille, Birth 7 Dec 1659, Death 1712
Jannetje VanSice, Birth ABT 16 Nov 1664 John Pell, Bplace London, England
Cornelis VanSice, Birth ABT 13 Sep 1666, Death 25 Oct 1733 Catherine DeHae rt, Death 15 Apr 1742
Catalyn VanSice, Birth ABT 10 Jan 1668/69
Johanne Joosten VanSice, Birth ABT 2 Dec 1670, New Amsterdam, USA, Dea th 29 Nov 1757, New York Judith Verwey, Bplace Ft. Orange, Albany, NY, Dea th 1757

Notes: Joost Carelszen Van Sysen it is estimated before 1650. He was a shi pbuilder. He was partners with Hendrick Lambertszen and thier yard w as at "Smith's Valley" on the west side of the present Pearl Street betwe en Wall St and Franklin Square in New York City's Manhattan.

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Notes received during trip to Bradford County, Pennsylvania

Hoost carelszen (van Sysen), the first American ancestor of the Van Sise f amily, was born in Middleburg, in the provice of Zeeland in the Netherland s, according to his statement upon joining the New York Dutch Church, prob ably about 1630. As he first appeared in the New Amsterdam court Recor ds on Dec. 22, 1653, and fairly feequently thereafter, it is probable th at he came to New Netherland not long before. Accoding to Mr. de Boor (o p. cit.) he was a ship builder in partnership with Hendrick Lambertezen Mo l, and their yard was at "Smith's Valley" on the west side of the prese nt Pearl street between Wall St. and Franklin Square (VNY73), which had be en bought before May 17, 1661 (RNA 2:7). Vanentine listed his proper ty in 1674 as of "4thclass" and estimated his wealth at $500 (ibid); in t he tax list of Mar 7, 1698 his property was valued at 10pounds (TNYHS 2:25 0). Joost became a member of the New York Duthch Church on May 28, 170 1, when he was recored as being from Middleburg (GBR25:259). He and h is wife were still living in 1703, then over sixty uears of age, accordi ng to the New York City census of that year. His wife, whom he probably m arried in Holland, was Styntje Jan of unknown paretage

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Notes from Ancestry of Patricia and Sandra Brooks:

According to Louis P. deBoer in his "Pre-American Notes on Old Netherla nd Families", this was origionally a Flemish family from the Province of Z eeland in the Netherlands. Protestent Flemish refugees had settled in lar ge numbers in East Friesland, New Netherlands, and who from 1558 on had co me there either by was of England or Rineland. [Ref. "The Genealogical M agazine of New Jersey" Vol. IV, p57.]

"Ther combination of Joost and Carel in a patronymical formation is very r are. It is therefore remarkable to find a certain Carel Joosten mar ry on Nov. 7, 1597in the Dutch Reformed Church at Leyden, Michieltje Corne lis."

It was common to see Flemish families in the late 16th century continual ly going back and forth between the Holland and the Zeeland cities, especi ally from Leyden, Holland, and Middelburg, Zeeland. [Ref. Ibid. Vol X p.3 21 and Baptisims, Vol D, fol.22]

Hoost Carelsen (Joost, the son of Carel) first appeared in the New Amsterd am court records on Dec. 22, 653, and it is probable he came to New Nether land (New York) not long before. He was a shipbuilder, and his yard w as at "Smith's Valley" on the west side of the present Pearl Street betwe en Wall Street and Franklin Square, which had been bought before May 17, 1 661.

Joost became a member of the New York Dutch Church on May 28, 1701, wh en he was recorded as being from Middleburg. He and his wife were stillli ving in 1703, then over 60 years of age, according to the New York City ce nsus that year. All their children were baptised in the Dutch Reformed Ch urch in New Amsterdam. They were known by their patronymic "Joosten", i. e. son or daughter of Joost, but when grown and married, all bore the fu ll family name of van Sysen.

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Joost married Ms. Styntje JANS about 1657 in New Amsterdam, New York. Styntje was born about 1641 in Netherlands; died about 1704 in New York. [Group Sheet]